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New postPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:52 pm 
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One day I was just setting in my living room chair a few years ago. I had many problems at that time and did not know about spiritual things as such or to say that I never had any actual real spiritual experience. Because I was very upset with life I challenged God to show himself to me or I would never believe in him again because if he is not real then I don’t want to waste my time any longer. Just as soon as the last word came out of my mouth I was knocked right out of my chair by a very extremely bright and powerful bolt of lighting or kundalini on to the floor. From that time until about six months afterwards every night I had an out of body experience. Some of the things that were interesting are as follows.

Seeing through the third eye. Seeing through the walls and even seeing when my eyes were closed. It did not matter if they were open or closed. Seeing the kundalini in myself by just turning around in my own body and looking at my spinal cord. Traveling in the astral body and then even traveling in the mental body.

After about six months of this OOB experience and many other experiences I was being pulled to the teachings of Paramahansa Yogananda at the Self-Realization Fellowship foundation in California to which I was initiated into kriya yoga. One day I was pulled to a book store and just stood next to a wall of books and I did not know what would happen. I waited for a few minutes and then decided that nothing was going to happen so I turned around an started to leave the book store. As I turned around a book fell out of one of higher shelves and hit the back of my shoe. When I bent down to pick up the book it opened to a page and as I read the page I was shocked to find out that it answered many questions about things concerning what I should do. I bought the book and underlined the items that were opened to me. The book was by Paramahansa Yogananda and that book also changed my life completely. The book was titled, “Man’s Eternal Quest” The special meaning for me was on page 109. It said, “ Everything in creation is a temptation to lure you from God.” “He wants to come to you, but you don’t let HIM; you would rather seek a little sense pleasure or spend your time on books or cocktail parties. So God says, “ All right, My child , play on .” Please note that this was just not a casual reading of these words as every single cell in my body was on fire.


I got pretty good at leaving the body. I could leave very slowly or really very fast. It all depends on the concentration. I could just lift one hand or foot into the astral side or I could slowly set up in bed and see my physical body still laying in bed. Every time I left my body very slowly and hovered about five feet about it I had a strange feeling that I was being watched. While in the physical body I thought over and over about it and thought that I always just barely could see something to the side of me, but I was not sure. Then after a while when I was out of the body I was just attacked by this other entity. We both fought around and around right in the middle of my bed room. I broke away many times and just continued my journey though the ceiling toward the sky. Many times I could not brake away from it and it just pushed my astral body down very close to the physical body and then the physical body acted like a magnet and snapped the astral body with a click back in to the physical. The same thing started to happen every time I left the body. I did not ever really want to come back in to the physical world because it was just to peaceful and fun traveling around. A few times I concentrated very hard to leave the body because I knew that the harder I concentrated the faster I would travel and I thought by doing this then the entity could not catch me. So I just left the body so fast right through the ceiling straight up to about even with the clouds. There were only a few clouds around and it was a full moon. I was just looking up at the moon and thought that it was so beautiful and peaceful next to the clouds. The sky was really very crystal clear. The moon was just a little translucent as I could see through it a little. After a few minutes looking at the moon I decided to turn around and look down toward the earth on the other side. I instantly turned around and now I found myself right above Pearl Harbor in Hawaii where I live. It was so beautiful as I could see the water reflecting off the moon light from about two or three miles up. Then I noticed that I did not have any kind of body. No astral body, nothing! No wonder the entity did not bother me because my astral body was still in my bedroom. It was a very strange feeling as I had full consciousness and was fully aware, but no astral body. Just a speck of invisible consciousness. Next I decided to go back to the physical body. For some reason I know that I must go at a certain time or I may never return at all. It’s intuition. I went back in to the physical body so fast that when I sat up in my bed my consciousness just went back an fourth through me for a little while. Next I looked outside and the full moon was still out and the same clouds were still over head.

One of the reasons that I stopped this out of body thing was because I could not keep myself in the physical body any longer. I just kept floating out even in the day time or while driving the car or any place. Then also I got tired fighting with this entity every single time. After thinking back I feel that this entity was not trying to hurt me. It just did not want me to play around on the astral side so much. I did not really want to come back into the physical body and maybe I would say sometime, “ no I don’t want to come back.” I think that this entity knew this and could see that I still had something left to do in this life. I still feel it’s presents and thank it every night for helping me.

A few note:

As I was leaving in the mental body and was just about to leave through the ceiling I turned around and noticed that my astral body was sliding down the wall like an accordion to the floor.

Color of the entity was light blue and the features were not very prominent.

A voice came through me which did vibrate my whole body as it talked. It said to the effect. “ I will always be here so please call on me when ever you need help.”

Many times the smell of roses were in my room when no roses were around. I just took this to mean that a very spiritual being was passing by.

When I opened my eyes or closed them it did not make any difference as I was seeing through the third eye. In fact I had to put my hand over my eyes in order to tell if they were open or closed.

Going to a restaurant and setting at the counter looking through all the walls.

Feeling extreme bliss a lot of the time. It was beyond words.


Finding money, diamonds, gold nuggets and other things as I just walked down the side walk. Every one else was just stepping all over them. I took this to mean that good luck was coming or I was entering a high cycle.

Body was always very cold when I re-entered it.

Reading every ones thoughts to which I learned that most people’s thoughts are really very egotistical and are of a greedy nature. Most people!


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 Post subject: Re: An Experience to Share
New postPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 11:41 am 
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Von wrote:
I was knocked right out of my chair by a very extremely bright and powerful bolt of lighting or kundalini on to the floor.
Is this the right meaning?
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KUNDALINI - (Sanskrit kund, "to burn"; kunda, "to coil or to spiral") a concentrated field of intelligent, cosmic invisible energy absolutely vital to life; beginning in the base of the spine when a man or woman begins to evolve as wisdom is earned. Kundalini has been described as liquid fire and liquid light. The ultimate outcome of kundalini is the union of Will (sakti- kundalini), Knowledge {prana-kundalini) and Action (para- kundalini)

Von wrote:
I was pulled to a book store and just stood next to a wall of books
I know this feeling. I was "pulled" to a diner one day and to a certain table that was not where I usually sat. Behind a shelf there I found a local paper rolled up and stuck away. You could only see if from the chair I was in....I pulled it out and saw a photo of my friend's house. They had burned out the day before....I got in contact with them right away.

Thank you for posting this experience. It sounds like you are growing spiritually very quickly.

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 Post subject: Re: An Experience to Share
New postPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 3:55 pm 
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Hi

Yes KUNDALINI is the correct word. It was kundalini, but unless a person knows what kundalini is then it might be easer just to say a bright light or they would not understand. No doubt it was kundalini and that was a very good observation on your part.

Keep studying and never ever stop. Many people spend a life time to awaken their kundalini just to realize in the end that it will burn them up like in Human Combustion. Then again if you're ready the experience can come to you instantly. However I sure was not ready. Not ready at all and almost got burnt up like a piece of toast. It's no joke and many times I think that this is God itself. It does have its own intelligents. I am happy to have had such experiences, but I don't wish it on any one.

May I make one point here? Just because I use words like Yoga, meditation and Kunalini it does not mean I do not believe in God. Most people on this forum are more Christian and so they may not like for me to use these words. Yet I am more familiar using these words in the yoga context than in the Christian context. "These are just words." Like the word God that is different to each person. Christianity sure "does" have the exact same experiences, but they use it in the Christian context like Holy Ghost, Etc. We all believe in the same thing only the words may be a little strange and that is all. Many times I just use the word force and let it go.

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 Post subject: Re: An Experience to Share
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Von wrote:
Just because I use words like Yoga, meditation and Kunalini it does not mean I do not believe in God. Most people on this forum are more Christian and so they may not like for me to use these words.

Yet I am more familiar using these words in the yoga context than in the Christian context. "These are just words." Like the word God that is different to each person.

Christianity sure "does" have the exact same experiences, but they use it in the Christian context like Holy Ghost, Etc. We all believe in the same thing only the words may be a little strange and that is all. Many times I just use the word force and let it go.


Last count there were only 12 of us and I know four are experiencers who seem to mostly believe there is no wrong way to believe.

We are all limited by our backgrounds in how we express ourselves. Thank you for being considerate enough to make this point, but I hope none here will take offense at differing belief systems. Acceptance that each is on their own path home is to be cultivated.

I agree that, whatever words you use, it can not describe the touch of the Divine adequately...

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 Post subject: Re: An Experience to Share
New postPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:52 pm 
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Thanks !

Good :)

Most of the time when you're all alone stuck in a closet the force comes to you.
It does not necessarily come to you in the huge temples and chuches.
He will come to the little people like Saint Bernadette for example that are so simple and pure.

I don't consider myself a Christian as such and as weird as this may sound Saint Bernadette does visit me. There are other spiritual beings also passing by now and then and most are yogis. I can feel them and each one is different and then of course there Saint Bernadette. Life can be stranger than fiction. I'm not a catholic, but I do light a candle for Saint Bernadette now and then just to show her respect. Also maybe play the song Ava Maria in the back ground just for her. She always comes.


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Von wrote:
Most of the time when you're all alone stuck in a closet the force comes to you.
It does not necessarily come to you in the huge temples and chuches.

I don't consider myself a Christian as such and as weird as this may sound Saint Bernadette does visit me.... Life can be stranger than fiction.

I'm not a catholic, but I do light a candle for Saint Bernadette now and then just to show her respect. Also maybe play the song Ava Maria in the back ground just for her. She always comes.


I was alone each time the spirt touched me deeply but I have been with others and they have been brushed by it as it reached me...it was seen and known by them as it moved us to prayer. I have been touched in churches twice in my youth.

If we define Christian as one who believes in the Christ Spirit, many are Christians. If one "must" believe that it manifested here as Jesus, there are still a lot more Christians than there are people in churches.

I believe in the Christ Spirit and believe that is what and who I was communicating with. No name was given but that is the impression I carry in my heart.

I am not, by blood, an American Indian, either, but I have had some strange things going on in my life that have led me to research some of their beliefs. It is educating my spirit and keeping my mind open to the possible.

If each of us is on our own path, then our way of respecting and demonstrating belief in the Divine Love will also be unique to each person. We do not need to have other believe "our way". We just need to walk our paths true to ourselves.

I know that saying you see saints must be hard. You know others may think you are just insane or on too much medication. :) But I believe you.

I want this to be a place people can talk about their spiritual experiences. We can all learn from each other. I ask that each person's words be treated as truth to them and responded to with curiousity and kindness, not disbelief and clinical science. There are other places on the net for "research".

I don't care if your experiences can be measured or caught on tape or seen in the activity of your brains. I only care how it has changed your life and your heart and how those changes affect your life and the way you care for others. I have provided a place I will try to keep safe for you to share them.

And life is stranger than fiction. We will find that out more as others join us in posting here.

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 Post subject: Re: An Experience to Share
New postPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:04 pm 
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Thanks

Sometimes I ask myself, why me? Why do I have so many people hurting me?
Why do they do this and that to me? Why am I always a victim over and over again?
I am a male by the way as it's hard to tell from my name. Many people can tell though just for the record. A lot of women feel like a victim, but men too have the same feeling sometimes.

So anyway an answer came back to me and it said. It's because you created bad causes in the past and now you have to pay for it. I call it karma, but whatever word you use it's still just cause and effect. We make a bad cause and we will get a bad effect. It's a universal law.

The voice said; do not blame anyone or anything because it's your fault?
Then I thought to myself? Ok everything is my fault then and I do not blame anyone because it was me that made a bad causes. I forgive every one and I love every one. It’s all my fault and I take the full blame for everything.

It’s working!

Thanks also for the blog address. I will go there now.

Have a nice day.

Von


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